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Frequently Asked Questions
My alternator has failed.
What should I do? It is most likely your
alternator has not failed. All of our units are built with the
highest quality, highest performance components and are checked on our high
performance
testers at the factory, prior to shipment, and verified for performance.
First check your battery. (Do not
charge the batteries first with a charger. Check batteries as
is, in service state). With the
engine off and the ignition off check the voltage
across the front battery red and black terminals with a volt meter.
The reading should be at least
12.3. volts DC. If there are dual batteries, disconnect the
positive of the front
battery, then measure front and rear batteries voltage with a VOM, one at a time. If voltage is below 12.3 volts
DC replace battery. If there are dual batteries, even if one is
below 12.3 replace both.
Second, ensure there is a heavy gauge wire
(about 3/8" thick) running from the red post on the alternator to the
red post on the battery.
Third ensure that there is a heavy
gauge (again
3/8"
thick) ground wire running from the alternator mount to the negative
side of the front battery OR the vehicle chassis if the battery is also
solidly grounded to such. Ground to the engine is not sufficient. Flat braided ground wire is not acceptable.
Also insure there is no paint on the alternator mounting bracket. In
some instances paint may be thick enough on the mounting bracket that a
good ground is not obtained by the alternator.
Fourth, belt alignment is
critical. Verify that the belt that runs the compressor and
alternator is on the correct grooves. The compressor will usually
have eight grooves and the alternator will have six grooves. The
belts should be aligned correctly either using a belt alignment laser or
review of operations manual. Typically, but not always,
the belt should ride on the rear most six grooves of the eight groove
pulley.
Fifth, download the
alternator checklist and
run the tests as described. This should correct most
problems associated with apparent alternator "failure".
Does leaving a chassis
sit for awhile without running the vehicle hurt the batteries?
Yes. It is imperative that vehicles do not sit for over a week
without running the motor or driving the vehicle. Vehicle overhead
loads that exist on the chassis, even when the vehicle is not running,
will deplete the battery beyond damage level. It is important that
the battery or batteries be put on a trickle charger or
dashboard-cigarette lighter trickle charger if the vehicle will
not be run for extended periods of time.
What is your warranty
policy? Our warranty depends on the type of client you
are. If you are a
dealer/end user the warranty is 12 months in service life. If you
bought your vehicle with an APS alternator installed, your
warranty would be 18 months from inservice date of the vehicle or 75,000
miles.
My battery just blew
up from another manufacturer's alternator. Does your power system
do this? Battery issues are usually caused by one
thing........BATTERY DISCHARGE BEYOND RECOMMENDED LIMITS. When
batteries discharge this low they will not be able to be recharged due to heavy sulfide buildup. Most alternators do not
spike or send over voltage to a battery, due to modern internal
regulator design. But alternators will try to charge a depleted
battery back to normal state. The table below indicates the lowest
recommended voltage under load, or cut-off voltage, for lead acid
batteries at various discharge rates. In general, lead acid batteries
are damaged in terms of capacity and service life if discharged below
1.69 volts per cell (10.14VDC for whole battery). It is widely recognized that the lead
acid style batteries are susceptible to over discharge damage. For example, if
a lead acid battery was discharged to 9.6 volts, and left standing in
either open circuit or on load for a long period of time, severe sulphation would occur, raising the internal resistance of the battery
to an abnormally high level. In such an extreme case, the battery would
not accept charge from any source. Trying to recharge a battery that has been
discharged to this point will result in an exploding battery due
to excessive current from the alternator trying to get the battery back
to a 14.2 voltage float. The battery would bubble or bulge out and
then after several days explode. It is necessary to avoid
the over discharge situation as much as possible. To prevent this from
happening, for some applications, it may be possible to incorporate a
low voltage alarm and cut off circuit. We recommend our 4013
battery seperator. For the
relation between discharge current and final discharge voltage, the
following table should be reviewed. The battery should never be discharged to less than
the predetermined final discharge voltage shown below; it could result
in over discharging the battery. Repeated over discharging may cause
permanent damage, to an extent that it may not be possible to recover
the battery.
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Battery Voltage |
| State of Charge |
Specific Gravity |
12V |
Volts per cell |
| 100% |
1.265 |
12.7 |
2.11 |
| *75% |
1.225 |
12.4 |
2.06 |
| 50% |
1.190 |
12.2 |
2.03 |
| 25% |
1.155 |
12.0 |
2.00 |
| Discharged |
1.120 |
11.9 |
1.98 |
| Depleted |
1.080 |
10.2 |
1.69 |
* Sulfation of Batteries starts when
specific gravity falls below 1.225 or voltage measures less than
12.4 (2.06 vpc). Sulfation hardens the battery plates reducing
and eventually destroying the ability of the battery to generate
Volts and Amps.
Does your system provide for a separate regulator housing?
We do not recommend external regulation for two reasons.
The first is it requires the OE chassis wiring be cut.
This completely violates the integrity of the OE chassis wiring.
The second is with today's
modern reliable IC circuits, a
far more stable regulator can be designed closer to the actual
power generation without using discrete components such as
resistors and capacitors which are subject to heat or vibration
damage.
Do you have a
diagnostic chart to tell me if my alternator is working correctly?
Yes,
click here.
Do you recommend a
certain battery? Yes. Hawker PC1700 AGM.
Do you have specific
installation schematics for power wiring? Yes, click here.
Service bulletins for
Cutaway chassis.
1
GM Topkick OEM wiring issue
2
Upgrade ground
3
Upgrade wiring
4 Installation
Tips
5
Dual Battery Isolator Wiring
6
Load Profile Calculation Sheet
7
Diagnostic Checklist
We just changed our
batteries out after we thought we had an alternator problem. Now
the alternators are working fine. What is going on?
Batteries are the primary source of chassis power problems. In 90%
of all power problems, the batteries have been discharged beyond
damage level and cannot be recharged. The alternator system
will still try to charge the battery even though the battery will never
charge up beyond 10.3 volts. Attempting to continue to
charge depleted batteries will cause excessive overload and power
robbing current that could otherwise be used for other electrical loads,
and eventually destroy the alternator and explode the battery.
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